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Do Drones Undermine Democracy? – NYTimes.com

Posted on January 22nd, 2012 at 21:48 by Desiato in category: Commentary

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There is not a single new manned combat aircraft under research and development at any major Western aerospace company, and the Air Force is training more operators of unmanned aerial systems than fighter and bomber pilots combined. In 2011, unmanned systems carried out strikes from Afghanistan to Yemen. The most notable of these continuing operations is the not-so-covert war in Pakistan, where the United States has carried out more than 300 drone strikes since 2004. Yet this operation has never been debated in Congress; more than seven years after it began, there has not even been a single vote for or against it. This campaign is not carried out by the Air Force; it is being conducted by the C.I.A. This shift affects everything from the strategy that guides it to the individuals who oversee it civilian political appointees and the lawyers who advise them civilians rather than military officers . It also affects how we and our politicians view such operations. President Obama’s decision to send a small, brave Navy Seal team into Pakistan for 40 minutes was described by one of his advisers as “the gutsiest call of any president in recent history.” Yet few even talk about the decision to carry out more than 300 drone strikes in the very same country. I do not condemn these strikes; I support most of them. What troubles me, though, is how a new technology is short-circuiting the decision-making process for what used to be the most important choice a democracy could make. Something that would have previously been viewed as a war is simply not being treated like a war.


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  1. What democracy?

  2. Sue may be going farther than I would, but honestly, this just sounds like what the CIA has been doing for the last 50 years. What does drone warfare have to do with it?

  3. I consider drone warfare to be the beginning of the end. I think killing with drones is similar to murder, and it’s likely to encourage further military adventures. I guess one could consider bombs in the same way. Maybe, we should just stop the killing.

So rong Harry Potter!

Posted on January 22nd, 2012 at 20:57 by John Sinteur in category: Funny!, Great Picture


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  1. Isn’t that the former leader of North Korea on his way to Heaven?

Nokia ringtone

Posted on January 22nd, 2012 at 15:48 by Paul Jay in category: News


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Cartoons

Posted on January 22nd, 2012 at 15:35 by John Sinteur in category: Cartoon


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Apple, America and a Squeezed Middle Class – NYTimes.com

Posted on January 22nd, 2012 at 15:09 by Desiato in category: Apple, News

This article is about Apple and iPhone manufacturing, but it explains in general why people say “nothing is made in America anymore”. I’m quoting more extensively than we usually do, but I think it’s worth it. What that means, of course, is that I think you should read the whole article.

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Apple executives say that going overseas, at this point, is their only option. One former executive described how the company relied upon a Chinese factory to revamp iPhone manufacturing just weeks before the device was due on shelves. Apple had redesigned the iPhone’s screen at the last minute, forcing an assembly line overhaul. New screens began arriving at the plant near midnight.

A foreman immediately roused 8,000 workers inside the company’s dormitories, according to the executive. Each employee was given a biscuit and a cup of tea, guided to a workstation and within half an hour started a 12-hour shift fitting glass screens into beveled frames. Within 96 hours, the plant was producing over 10,000 iPhones a day.

“The speed and flexibility is breathtaking,” the executive said. “There’s no American plant that can match that.”

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“We sell iPhones in over a hundred countries,” a current Apple executive said. “We don’t have an obligation to solve America’s problems. Our only obligation is making the best product possible.”

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In part, Asia was attractive because the semiskilled workers there were cheaper. But that wasn’t driving Apple. For technology companies, the cost of labor is minimal compared with the expense of buying parts and managing supply chains that bring together components and services from hundreds of companies.

For Mr. Cook, the focus on Asia “came down to two things,” said one former high-ranking Apple executive. Factories in Asia “can scale up and down faster” and “Asian supply chains have surpassed what’s in the U.S.” The result is that “we can’t compete at this point,” the executive said.

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It is hard to estimate how much more it would cost to build iPhones in the United States. However, various academics and manufacturing analysts estimate that because labor is such a small part of technology manufacturing, paying American wages would add up to $65 to each iPhone’s expense. Since Apple’s profits are often hundreds of dollars per phone, building domestically, in theory, would still give the company a healthy reward.

But such calculations are, in many respects, meaningless because building the iPhone in the United States would demand much more than hiring Americans — it would require transforming the national and global economies. Apple executives believe there simply aren’t enough American workers with the skills the company needs or factories with sufficient speed and flexibility.


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  1. Just to make sure this doesn’t devolve into an “Apple is evil” comment thread, here is a list of Foxconn customers. Among them Acer, Amazon, IBM, Lenovo, Logitech, Microsoft, Motorola, Netgear, Nintendo, Nokia, Asus, Cisco, Panasonic, Dell, Sharp, HP, Intel, Toshiba

  2. Oh, and I would happily pay $65 more for my phone if I knew it would go to higher wages.

  3. Yeah. I was going to say I’d happily wait another 6 (or 12…) weeks for a new iPhone model if it meant people wouldn’t get pulled out of bed at midnight and got to work reasonable shifts.

  4. Suppose good wages were a given, and suppose it wouldn’t be “wake up at midnight” but 8:30 the next business day – where in the US would you be able to get 8000 assembly line workers that fast?

  5. I read the entire article. While I agree it is largely about the money, I did not miss the piece on the glass factory. The Chinese government funded the development of the factory before the contract was awarded. That is industrial policy in action. In the U.S. , “industrial policy’ is a dirty phrase. Imagine in the current polarized environment, the Obama administration funding a factory build out in “anticipation” of a contact? Never happen. Without solid industrial policy, the 1% will continue to sell out as they are citizens of no country and have no loyalty to workers or country (to loosely quote a commenter to that article). This is the result of “leave it to the market” that everyone screams is so great. While free markets have benefits, they need to be tempered by industrial policy. That is what the Chinese government is doing and the world is see the results.

  6. “where in the US would you be able to get 8000 assembly line workers that fast?”

    Detroit.

  7. Hopefully, there is an accounting some day and the executives, the live ones anyway, end up living in China.

  8. Something like that will eventually happen, itspast. We’ve seen it in the automotive industry. Most of the Toyotas, Nissans, BMWs, Mercedes, etc that are sold in America are built in America. There will be some pressure on Apple and others to start providing some of the high wages needed to purchase their products.

Family Values

Posted on January 22nd, 2012 at 10:57 by John Sinteur in category: Indecision 2012

Using daughters from your first wife to convince everyone that your second wife is lying about your third wife.


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  1. Well, it worked on his now-girlfriend.

  2. According to the exit polls Gingrich scored 44% with Born-Again or Evangelical Christians.

    The only explanation I can think of is that they go all gooey eyed for a redemption story. He’s saved! Praise Ja-He-Sus! Can I get a hallelujah?!?

  3. In the grotesque reality tv show that is US politics, this is just ensuring a goodly supply of future on-screen squabbles that viewers love.

  4. He also scored best with married women. You gotta wonder.