If the church has more than 1000 members in it, as this video said at the beginning, is she really the best defender of the statement they could find? Seriously? I mean, sure, the pastor’s statements are indefensible, but she was flustered by the fact that Anderson Cooper knew the bible better than she did.

Also — and forgive me for engaging in some stereotyping and all here, but — this woman is awfully butch looking, isn’t she?